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I recall that around the corner on Saginaw St. It absorbed the overflow from The Copa. Tom Short's band was a regular feature at The Peppermill, and I saw Mose Allison there, which is my only recollection of a national act playing a Flint bar. The LL-T name was used because they could form the letters out of the old sign. Metropolis opened downtown after I left town. More of a club, but wasn't booze available there too? One place that always brings back some decadent momories was i believe it was the athletics club around the corner from the intersection at court and corunna.
It was an after hours place and me and a buddy used to frequent with some friends that worked at deja vu, after they closed. One time in particular, it ws after our openhouse for graduation we loaded up a keg from the open house and had the tap going through the window of mytruck at the time.
No proles allowed, embers only Nothing personal, just wondering. Spent many, too many Weds. Never got so sick and tired of hearing different covers of 'sweet home alabama' in my life. But, the absolute BEST, I mean willing to die or kill for corned beef sands, one had to leave Buicktown and head down to Alban's in, ugh, Birmingham, an enclave of semi-rich suburbinites, not well to do enough to move to Bloomfield.
And they had the most outrageously good homemade Kosher dill pickles I've ever tasted, then or now. Wasn't Al and Donna's aka as 'Mavis's"? I not only sang at Doobies and Hats Pub Dominic's at the Galaxy Center. That radio jiggle never left my head. And as I recall Dominic Moceri who went to Powers and occasionally rode my bus was none too please that his Dad had named the bar after him.
Bustdup you are correct Alban's was the best I've been looking for that sandwich ever since I left Michigan. You guys were alot more sophisticated than us youngsters. We called it the Hot Cock. As far as national acts playing Flint bars, plenty have done so of the punk, metal, and cock rock persuasion. The Back Room had another nickname: I'm not even joking. I always thought that was the name of the rental hall in Rankin.
Was it a bar? Great name whatever the origin. Was it the Tropicana on Industrial? There were a few others on Industrial. The Doughouse in Burton. Where was the Junkyard Bar? Was it near junkards?
Jimmy Lum's Aloha Lounge deserves it's own post. Heck, Bob Adado alone deserves his own blog. Went to school with Jimmy Emerson We have just launched a blog last week dedicated to visiting all the bars in Flint. It's an idea we've been brewing for a long time.
As this post shows there are a plethora of bars in the city of Flint. Someone had to go there. Might as well be me. Strip Clubs of Flint!!
The count is lower now, but uhhh lets see. Was it also called the Sunset or Sunrise? A few others on Dort? An illegal club on Lapeer Rd. Some dive out on Pierson and Dolan. The strip coffee shop in Clio. Of course the College Inn and Titty City kicked it old school.
Professor, you've got a winner here for most comments on one subject. This dethrones the Powers discussion from quite awhile back. Does anybody remember the main house band that was there in the early 80's. That was a great bar. What was I thinking with this post? Please be patient with me as I try to keep the list updated. You people need to show some moderation!
Oh, was the Hot Rock the place that went in the original Copa when it moved across the street? Yes, the Hot Rock was where the Copa was. I had forgotten about that Back Room bar.. I went there a couple times. They had the best food in town. It is now gone. Sunset Lounge on Franklin appeared to be closed for years but was actually open. Closes at 3 pm. Windmill Place Bar had a dress code?!?! The name says it all. The Bank on S.
Dunno what it is called now. Used to be a neon Goebels sign next door. Partied on the roof with Mercedes Wrex. The Bailiwick was the Verdict and before that the Genesee Bar. You forgot the "Hob Knob Lounge" on Center road. Another beauty in Flint. Saginaw Street near Beecher. I went there on a job-related repair call 10 years ago thinking I would walk in to an all african-american crowd. It looked like Archie Bunker's Place! I don't remember a bar at Windmill Place perhaps a Grand Marnier or two, too many but Figlio's was the name of the bar at Water Street.
For After-Hours, it was "Mr. Lucky's" on Lapeer Road across from Channel I think it was mainly a teen disco, but sometimes they had punk bands play there, and if you were over 21, you could bring your own beer if memory serves me correctly. It was kind of like a hall party.
Snotty's was on S. Saginaw between Hemphill and Bristol, a couple of blocks from Mr. G's, and back from the street a bit, near the Super City store. Balliwick was called The Verdict in the s, one of the waitresses there was a good friend of mine. My parents owned Payne's Bar for years. When Fisher Body was still open, we had them packed 5 deep at the bar on breaks and lunch.
If you had ever been there, you know it was only wide enough for about 5 deep. Just a little hole in the wall bar where only employees and wierdos came in through the front door. Rosie came in singing "Bill Bailey". Old Paul always sat in the same seat and got pissed if someone was there before him. Drank draft beer with no head and left a 5 cent tip. Brothers Red and Bill. Guys from Buick at night, Smitty , Hosea, Jack.
God, I miss that place. Papazif-did your parents own payne's bar in the 's? Im looking for my birth father who does not know I exisit. My fathers mother is a relative to the owner in that period of the 70's. I was born in Any info would be helpful. I know it sounds weird to ask , but worth a try. I guess those tee-shirts circa early '80's really summed things up: Lucky's around back of the building across from WJRT? Methinks that was an alcohol free AA noghtspot for a time in the late 80s.
Hey Tom Wirt- if you have any photos of the Terrorists or The Rub or any other early Flint punk shennanigans, puh-leeze post 'em up. I have such fond memories of getting into Contos among other places with my expertly made fake ID thanks for the tip Raedene!
I was not one of them; let's just clarify that. But my friend was "with" the lead singer. In Flint I always seemed to have a friend "with" one of the band members, which somehow guaranteed you a place by the sound board and no questions about age when ordering drinks.
Anyway, this was the only time the guy at the door decided to take a closer look at my ID - ever. Then he asked my friend and I how old I really was, and out of sheer coincidence we both blurted out "27" in total synchronicity. After that I was never carded again there. Now that I think of it, the eighties were rather frightening Similar age bracket, different animal altogether.
I guess the Aloha Lounge has punk bands now!?! Bring back Bob Adado. A lispy former boss used to hang out here. I thought it was called the Lacy C Saloon for the longest time. Rollingwood Tavern- Layton Blvd. White Eagle- Industrial Ave. Saginaw Times Square- Clio Rd?
Carriage Town Inn- revamped for the Will Farrel movie. Soggy Bottom- Nice place. Dude at the bar thought my pitcher of Bells was white wine?!?!
I offered him a taste. Down The Tracks- the place on Chevrolet that looked like a barn. Bar- I was so blitzed one night, I was watching some lame hair metal band in the mirrors at the side of the stage, only thing was I didn't realize I was looking at a mirror.
I drunkenly concluded they were an all left-handed group. Northend and southside seem to be somewhat neglected. I'll bet there are a half dozen on Dort Hwy. Was the Ad-Lib Lounge next to Farahs? Anyone remember the name of the club in the basement of the Small Mall on Dort??? I thought I saw it on another Flint site but can't find it now Grumkin, give up the search for the ultimate Corned Beef on rye.
I've looked from New Hampshire to Key West, and all points from there. Seemed like quite the place for cheating on your spouse. Later became TGI Fridays!?!? Run by a graphic artiest name Frank - Ruby Player - who oddly enough created the "Flint" spark font logo on this web sites home page. Fireside Lounge, corner of Clio and Pierson Rd. SRO, six nights a week. John- The Bob Adado Trio? He is held in high regard around these parts.
Bob Adado is hands down Flint's greatest ever contribution to music. Bob is one helluva player. Nice to see you recognize him for that. Some of my very best moments in music happened with Bob. He's a monster talent. Posted this'un in the wrong place. Anyone who can simultaneously play two trumpets, a keyboard, a karaoke machine, all the while singing and yucking it up with the crowd is indeed a talent.
Best of all Bob always seemed to be having a blast. What a great guy!! I gotta hand it to Joe Freyre as well. A Flint fixture, he seemed to be everywhere. Joe must have visited my school at least once every couple of years.
Not only did he and his combo introduce many Flint school children to jazz, he would also belt out crowd pleasers like the Barney Miller theme. I had no idea Freyre and Adado collaborated. But that bartender will send you to jail quickly for any assorted driving-while-schnockered offenses if you're not careful. Strongest drinks I've ever, ever seen. I was pleased to see that my grandfather's bar Reese Jones was mentioned. I have heard many a story and always love to hear more.
I never knew him as he passed at a very young age. I know if he was any thing like his wife Mona my grandmother his wife he must have been something special. I would be interested in hearing any storie's about him or the bar. You can reach me by email. I still live in the Flint area. I know that's right JAG, my Dad used to play the drums on the bar stools there! We used to go there, then to Doobies downtown!!!!! Anonymous, give us some more detail. How'd you end up with the signs?
Hey lets not forget the crem dela grem of the flint night spots in the early 80s the Lamplighter. I had more fun there than any place in flint. The place had lines out the door every night I knew the night manager and he would let us in the back door.
Women everywhere that why they called it the tramplighter. What great memories I have of that group! Hey Tom and Grumkin. Fun to see the Maxwell Band is still remembered I hardly remember it myself Don't think I have that one. Hey Tony - Nice to see you here. Hope you're doing well. I don't remember too much from that time either I've got a two-pronged question that, I suppose, isn't really as relevant as it should be in this thread.
Nonetheless, I thought I'd ask. A long, long time ago I used to go to a bar up on Pierson Road, with my first wife, and I think - unless it's one of those false memory syndrome things - 1 the the place was called Ali-Babas or Alladin's, maybe - it was about a block east of The Fireside on Pierson , and, 2 that I caught a singer there by the name of Tommy Bell. The guy fronted his own band and was a great singer.
Years later I was working, as a musician, at a casino called the Peppermill in Reno, Nevada. Our band alternated sets with Tommy Bell and, well, it was just a real surprise to run into him out there. Found a page on the net, recently, that referred to him as a "Reno Legend" so, it appears, he really found a home out west.
Guy Merritt Still crazy - and still in Flint - after all these years. Aw yes, The Lamplighter.. It got so easy to get laid there, I'd drink at home and head over about 1: Wimpy's on Chevrolet Ave. It had great hamburgers. Wish I could find burgers like that now.
There was another bar there with a different name now the last I saw it. Felieos, not sure of the spelling, it was in the water Street pavilion 2nd floor back when the pavilion first opened. Looking for the name of a bar located on N Saginaw St just north of 2nd Ave.
I t was near the old Italian Gardens?? It was a Adult men's type bar. It's in the list at the head of this topic, and it's appeared in other threads before. Somewhere here, there's a link to a site with photos, matchbooks, etc.
It wasn't the College Inn. That was a block west on Detroit St. The strip club near the Italian Gardens was the Sunset Lounge. My step dad managed the sunset for years! We would help clean and got to keep the money we found vacuming Christmas at our house involved all sorts!
Thought maybe it was the Golden Spike bar near the old Greyhound terminal. JWilly, have you been up Chevrolet Ave. What is in where Wimpy's used to be? There were also the Ambassador and Rube's in that shooping center. It was McKays then Mudges They also had a market on Fenton Rd. How's that for connecting the landmark dots? I vaguely remember the mid-block bakery, the wooden-canopied service station at the north end of the block, and not sure if this is a real memory or a suggested one the old trolley rails peeking out of the asphalt with the overhead catenary wiring in use by the electric buses.
My Mom took me to the barbershop across the street for my early-years haircuts. The City created more parking for the stores by tearing out the boulevard divider in that block and having angle parking between the two halves of Chevrolet. The bakery was O'Kelly's Pastry Shop.
My dad owned that one and one on Corunna RD. We used to go back and forth to both! Impressive list of some of Flint's finest watering holes. However, as I scrolled - rather quickly so I may have missed it - I did not see one of my favorite hangouts. Andrew McKellars in the Windmill Place.
Man, I loved that bar. I did see someone asked about the name of it. The State Bar on S. Dort opened in about For years it didn't have a sign out front. It is still open today, with a sign.
My dad is the owner of the old Fenton Road Tavern. He's owned for about 4 or 5 years now. He changed the name to Stumblin' Inn shortly after buying it. Supposedly this is the place where Grand Funk Railroad got their start which would make sense, since it's down the road from the train bridge with their name on it. Ever since he got it, however, the business has been struggling, probably from loss of jobs and from heaps of competition in the area.
I just figured I'd share! Justin, thanks for the comment. Hey, if you have some sort of photo of the bar, send it my way: Tavern was one of the original watering holes on that drag along with Jackies Tavern and that was about it.
In the late forties Gerty and Ed's was opened and in the fifties, three or four others came along. Tavern burned in the early fifties and at that time it was known as Kesslers.
Later, the locals used to call it The Green Door. I doubt if it ever had any connection to Grand Funk because it was always a hillbilly bar. About a mile or so south on Fenton Rd. Those four places all were my sponsors for sports teams from twelve yrs. The Well was built about the same time as Gerty and Ed's. The Lone Pine is the only one with it's original name left. Right across the street from Delphi now a parking lot. He died when I was 9 years old so it's great to read that people remember his restaurant fondly.
We still have tapes of the Jazz bands that played in the bar. Glad to find this! Rusty Nail downtown and what was the strip place east side of Saginaw street across from the Durant. My older Brother used to drag me into the State bar and over to the Copa to drink and dance the night away Used to skip school and catch a bus into Flint and hang out at Touch boutique. Yep grew up a lot in Flint! Went to see Harry Chapin Damn, I had to go all the way through this post of comments again and it's way past my bedtime now.
The New Service bar corner of Sag. And a footnote to Janey Jones. I heard all the stories of and about Reese when I was a little kid and how Reese Jones Bar was a show place and boasted the longest bar top in Flint.
Anyone who was anyone went there at one time. My Dad and a whole bunch of others came up to Flint from Sullivan County,Indiana to work in the auto industry with some staying in Detroit. Jobs were plentiful then and my Paw said,"With very few exceptions,all were successful.
Never again will we be able to duplicate what we had in those days of Flint Downtown. Hat's Bobbi aka bobbi - whattup???? Jumping back a few posts, the men's club on Atherton and Dort used to be the Phase Five lounge, then it became the No name bar temporarily until it was named the Odyssey.
One half became a strip bar and the other half was a dance bar. That was funny to watch girls catching their men have a peak at the other side. They did so well it eventually became a full blown strip bar. There was a disco place on Genesee Road called "The Shanty" back in the late 70's - early 80's.
Figlios was cool, but Jimmy Lums rocked! Palm trees and dancing on a sandy dancefloor- "I'm on top of the world, ma"! I was truly just looking for a limo getaway! Anyone remember Ink's Bar What was the name of the bar that is now racers on the corner of dort and richfield? Can't recall the name though. I think it is the Rollingwood Tavern. Check out this slice o' Rollingwood pride. Take that, Thrift City. Bite it, Halls Flats. Kiss my butt, Civic Park. Take that, Halls Flats.
Bite it, Thrift City. Kiss my behind, Civic Park. The bar behind the Seymour's is called "The Stroll Inn". Can you post a picture on here. Reese Jones was my grandfather and I was recently given a great picture of the bar. Regarding the Flint bar list: Dort Hwy and the Ivanhoe on Davison Rd. Janie, happy to post bar photos. Just email a digital version to me at gordonwrites at gmail dot come.
My grandfather used to take me into Cozy Corner when I was a kid. I don't think you can get away with that in most bars these days.
The Stroll Inn by the damn used to be called the Wheelhouse Lounge. Did the Every Flint Bar bloggers ever finish their quest or what? I'm guessing on one of the following scenarios instead- A Quit after their second PBR hangover B Became disenchanted after encountering a paucity of "salt-of-the-earth" Flint sterotypes C Forgone old man bar gawking for vinyl record collecting or some other trendy pursuit D Got shanked in Buckham Alley.
I've tried to contact the intrepid barflies, but they seemed to have completely disappeared. I wanted to tell them that when the world overwhelms you and you really don't have time to blog, you simply rely on sleights of hand like "Flint Photos" and "Flint Artifacts. Don't forget the Diamond Bar which was located at S Saginaw. I used to work at the University Club I remember when they built a special private room near the south west corner in the back for all the judges and city officials to play their illegal poker games and be served lunch Ah the good o'l days Thanks for the comment.
I had to edit out the name because we typically don't run names in these cases. After all, the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case called Harvard University the other day and threatened to sue Alan Dershowitz and Harvard for exercising his First Amendment rights by writing point by point what a weak and even fraudulent case it is for Second Degree murder. The First Amendment is under siege.
Good call on that one, Gordo! What was the name of the club in the Durant Hotel back in its days. I think that it was somehow associated with the UAW? I did not see Vinnie's Bowling Bar listed. It was next to Cromers restaurant accross the street from the Durant. I used to have a beer in there waiting for my wife to get off work at the resturant. They had Mini bowling and a very interesting cast of patrons. Dave, Gig Harbor, WA. What was the name of the bar on dort hwy that Bill Pearson used to dj at?
What was the original bar at corunna and dye , before it became tailgate, then bubbas? How about the Wayside Inn on Pasadena. Great old time family tavern. Fish and chips on Friday nights were outstanding. Until Mom finally had enough of that nonsense. A real dive but we would go in there after spending all our money at The Light, or Conto's, or The Lamplighter. We could get a couple of beers for a buck or two.
And sometimes the old barflies would buy us a beer just to talk to someone. Anything known about place yacht club I believe was the name. Spent my share of time there from about Good live dance music. Had a lot of fun there. Some mafia guys hung out there also. Those were the days!